next season - a big campaign you are invited

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22GCT_Gross
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Post by 22GCT_Gross »

Nice!
it's a multisector and multi-scenario campaign: mediterranean, eastern and pacific.
Everyone from any time zone will be able to play; there are 6 missions a week with different timing to satisfy all the players. All in one campaign.
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RAF74_Buzzsaw
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Post by RAF74_Buzzsaw »

Hello Gross

Can you post more details of this campaign and when it is expected to start?

Would a Squadron which prefers to fly Western Allied aircraft be able to fly?
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Post by ViFF »

The IAF will be there! 8)

Expect 10-12 pilots on a normal basis, min/max is 8/16 pilots.

We are Euro time zone (GMT+2), so we will prefer the missions scheduled during evening of Europe.


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22GCT_Gross
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Post by 22GCT_Gross »

Very welcome to everybody.

Current status is:
1- HSFX v4 released; you have to download it soon and install it over the 409m official (see 242nd forum for details and also in some posts somewhere here);
2- next Scorched Earth release almost ready by 4Shades; will be a strong update, so 4Shades is doing a hard job for everybody, as well as Charlie Chap;
3- campaign templates are set up, but they must be checked out once SE update will be released;
4- then we will be able to launch the organizational agreements with all the squadrons here registered for joining the game;
So we are expecting campaign will start within about 1 month from now.
Campaign will last about six months.

All squadrons will be free to choose the better scenario they want to fly, according with a timetable including several timezones in the world.
Further and more detailed infos will be released when we'll get the step nr. 4.
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RAF74_Buzzsaw
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Post by RAF74_Buzzsaw »

Hello Gross

I have a fair amount of experience in creating SE templates and running wars.

I would certainly be interested in helping out with the creation of map scenarios for this war.

For example, wondering if you have anyone assigned to the new El Alamein map?

Would love to help out with that one.

Thanks RAF74_Buzzsaw
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Post by 22GCT_Gross »

Templates are almost ready; Charlie and Brandle worked on them.
Now that new SE has been released, we're going to catch the steps 3 and 4 very soon; Expected time is now shorter.
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Post by 242Sqn_Chap »

JUNE 4th 1942 Multisector Campaign

Status:- HSFXv4 is released and 4Shades has just released a wonderful new SEOW update to support it.

All of the required sectors have been added to the MP ( PA_Dore, Gross, Brigstock & Chap).

The templates are 'roughly' populated and now we have to finalise the servers (ITAL_SEOW, 69GvIAP and 102nd_COOP), initialise the templates and begin to run the necessary tests.

OUTLINE

The design is for a 'multitheatre' 'multisector' campaign.

The plan is to run three missions a week at peak times (with large turnout , hopefully 80 + participants. AND 3 missions a week with smaller turnouts in the less 'active' sectors.

The peak time missions are most likely to co-incide with CET (this is a practicality) whilst the less active missions can be scheduled to give everyone that cannot usually make these times a chance to also participate.

We hope to run the campaign for 6 months. (24 missions per sector total)

JUNE 4th 1942
is the chosen timeframe because both sides are fairly evenly matched in most theatres and there is also huge variety of aircraft...there is a historical reason also:-

THEATRES

PACIFIC (design by 242Sqn_Cat & Chap )

Midway Expanded The Slot
Hawaii and Phillipines as timeskipped production areas

June 4th of course is the beginning of the epic battle of Midway.
Midway expanded allows us to recreate this at almost full scale for the first time (with a host of new IJN carriers).

The Slot is relatively unpopulated at the start. The direction the Pacific Theatre takes will depend upon the result of Midway.
IJN invasion will halt the supply of US lendlease to the Eastfront and allow Strategic bombing of Hawaii.
US victory will allow a progression into TheSlot

THE EASTFRONT (design by Brandle)

Crimea Kuban

Initial action is focused upon the Crimea with production coming from the Kuban. Action will move depending upon the results of the Axis offensive. Brandle can embellish details but expect the Eastfront to be an extremely hard faught ground war with proper emphasis upon the AxisAllied contingents that flew there.

Timeskipped production centres:-

Channel 1940 & ITAFrGR provide the production capability of the Western Allies, German and AxisAllied contingents. The Axis commanders have to decide how to distribute their limited resouces between TheMed and the Eastfront.

THE MEDITERRANEAN (design by 242Sqn_Chap)

Centmed Libya

June 4th is about 10 days into the Gazala offensive in North Africa and also when the most bloody convoy battles to Malta occured.

The Allies have to supply Malta and prevent the fall of Tobruk.
The Axis have to prevent Allied Supply from reaching Malta and protect their own convoys to North Africa so that Rommel has the resources to capture Tobruk.
(Supply to Lybia has to shipped across an expanded Centmed and may not be simply transfered.)

Bombing Supply Areas
There is a mechanism for Strategic bombing (and interception of such) into the supply sectors.


This is probably enough detail to give you a good overview.

Squads that are interested should contact 22GCT_Gross ASAP so that we can try and arrange the times/theatres/sectors and squad responsabilities etc etc.

This of course requires a fair amount of organisation, the more that we all know , the earlier we know it , the more likely it is that we can arrange participation in a way that will 'maximise utility'.

Long term I know...maximum pleasure, for as many people as possible I believe is the Utilitarian principle of 'maximise Utility'.

FINAL THOUGHT

The intention is SIMULATION and NOT COMPETITION.
Overly competitive individuals should play Chess and not SEOW as they are in no way similar.
Chess is a perfectly balanced competitive game,
SEOW is the ultimate 'MP mission generator', that also adds context and depth to IL2 flight simulation.

This can be the ultimate in Simulation and Immersion if you get a bunch of amicable and likeminded people involved.

Competitive people however will quickly create badfeeling, untold arguements, work for the admins and can potentially turn what can be great experience into something thoroughly unpleasant.

Please pm 22GCT_Gross and we can try and get an idea of interests, optimum days and times.

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Post by PA-Dore »

Thanks Charlie for:
"The intention is SIMULATION and NOT COMPETITION.
Overly competitive individuals should play Chess and not SEOW as they are in no way similar.
Chess is a perfectly balanced competitive game,
SEOW is the ultimate 'MP mission generator', that also adds context and depth to IL2 flight simulation.
This can be the ultimate in Simulation and Immersion if you get a bunch of amicable and likeminded people involved.
Competitive people however will quickly create badfeeling, untold arguements, work for the admins and can potentially turn what can be great experience into something thoroughly unpleasant. "


PA (Pirates de l'Air) are OK with that.
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Post by 22GCT_Gross »

To all squadrons

Please,
Download the form and send me at gross@22gct.it
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ViFF
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Post by ViFF »

Form sent on behalf of the IAF.

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Post by IV/JG7_4Shades »

Hi Gross,

Just trying to coordinate the Australian SEOW HQ bunch at the moment. The usual bunch includes Warg, Ikey, Hawk5 and myself, so we are pretty small. But each of us are at least reasonably skilled in SEOW template design, and in SEOW command roles, and are individually able and willing to fly either side in any sector. We are happy to fly together or on opposing sides.

Our time zones are:

GMT+8 Ikey, 4Shades
GMT+10 Warg
GMT+11 Hawk5

More information on preferred days later.

Cheers,
4S
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Post by PA-Dore »

Hi Gross,

Pirates de l'Air (PA) form sent.

Cheers
EAF92_Meako
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Post by EAF92_Meako »

On behalf of EAF i would like to express our interest in taking part, i am currently assesing the numbers of pilots we can realistically field each mission and will let you know.
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Post by Loon »

LW10 plus JG77 started the HSFX4 mod download and instalation pointing to this campaign and beeing part of it.
The proper form will be sent asap, probably during the next week.

Thank you chaps. :wink:
22GCT_Gross
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Post by 22GCT_Gross »

Actually I received the application form from:
- IAF (Israeli)
- PA (France)
- II/JG77 (Australia)
- SYN (England)
- LLv16 (Finland)
- AVG (USA)
- 15/JG52 (Hroatia)
- IV/JG7 (Australia)
- EAF (international)
- 22GCT (Italy)
- AMVI (Italy)
- 6S (Italy)
- 72sq (Italy)
- 167MAV (Italy)
- 335th (Greece)
- 1SMV (Italy)


The following application forms are incoming:
- 150GCT (Italy)
- 69.GIAP (international)
- 1.Java (Holland)
- 242sqn (England/Canada)
- 102nd (ex Yugoslavia)

and we're waiting for:
- RAF74
- LW10
- JG77
- II/JG1 - II./JG1_Hanshew
- II/JG54 - II/JG54_Emil
- PE (Austria?)
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