Discussion on PHASE 2 - CONCEPT ETC...
Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:29 pm
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Reading post PHASE 2 - CONCEPT ETC... on SEOW HQ forum, i have suggestion for 3 points:
1) in MAP ADJUSTMENTS FROM PHASE 1 TO PHASE 2
"1. Carrier launch zone moved to BI row (is now BN) to make it slightly more difficult to attack by Axis."
Its to mutch to West, with no-fly zone west from BB line to this new lanch point, BI line, its only 70km. For ships thats 1 mission to get and lanch airplanes and 1 mission to get back behined saefty of BB line.
Only 2 missions where Axis are able to attack and sunk Carrier or only 1 before he lanches airplanes. If we dont play night missions its not easy to servive to be able to hit carrier with 2-3 bombers in one mission. Old BN line to me looks OK for phase 2
2) in OPERATIONAL FOCUS OF PHASE 2
"d. Allied Carrier (HMS Furious) available pre-loaded with Spits/Hurri's (Allied commander's choice) starts within carrier launch zone. Planes need to be flown to Malta. Spits transferred this way will have a 2 mission refueling time. On mission 4, the spits will be set to no refueling delay as the other fighters."
So Carrier HMS Furious is in BI line at mission #1, and in first mission with no recon Axis have to attack that carrier. Allied commnder will probably send carrier in that first mission imidiatly to go back to BB line. It looks like Axis dont have a chance to sunk that first carrier group and first group of airplanes is lanched with no way for Axis to stop them.
I think its also not neccesery for airplanes flown to Malta to have 2 mission refuling time.
For me better option for this would be, now when we are starting from date when there was no Spitfiers on Malta, at start mission #1 that first carrier group is somwere behined BB line, at location from which it takes carrier atleast 2 missions to get to lanch zone for airplanes.
That would alove at best from mission #3 Allieds to start transfering airplanes to Malta. Axis then have 2 missions to fined and attack that first carrier group before it is able to lanch airplanes, and then no need to have refuling time for transfered airplanes, like it was in phase 1. And again no Spitfiers in air in first 2 missions, in 3rd mission they would be first time flown from Carriers to Malta.
3) in OPERATIONAL FOCUS OF PHASE 2
"a. Beaufighters and none carrier fighters/fighter bombers are not allowed to cross coast as per phase 1.
i. Beauforts? Allowed or not? "
Also agree that Beaufighters, and fighters or fighter/bombers should not be able to attack over Sicily
Regarding question on Beauforts, they have only 1x.303 in wing for strafing, so they would have to attack with bombs so i would alow Allieds to be able to attack over Sicily with Beauforts, same as with Wellingtons or Blenheims IV, Carrier bombers Swordfishe, SBD-3 and TBD-1 should also be alowed to attack over Sicily
Reading post PHASE 2 - CONCEPT ETC... on SEOW HQ forum, i have suggestion for 3 points:
1) in MAP ADJUSTMENTS FROM PHASE 1 TO PHASE 2
"1. Carrier launch zone moved to BI row (is now BN) to make it slightly more difficult to attack by Axis."
Its to mutch to West, with no-fly zone west from BB line to this new lanch point, BI line, its only 70km. For ships thats 1 mission to get and lanch airplanes and 1 mission to get back behined saefty of BB line.
Only 2 missions where Axis are able to attack and sunk Carrier or only 1 before he lanches airplanes. If we dont play night missions its not easy to servive to be able to hit carrier with 2-3 bombers in one mission. Old BN line to me looks OK for phase 2
2) in OPERATIONAL FOCUS OF PHASE 2
"d. Allied Carrier (HMS Furious) available pre-loaded with Spits/Hurri's (Allied commander's choice) starts within carrier launch zone. Planes need to be flown to Malta. Spits transferred this way will have a 2 mission refueling time. On mission 4, the spits will be set to no refueling delay as the other fighters."
So Carrier HMS Furious is in BI line at mission #1, and in first mission with no recon Axis have to attack that carrier. Allied commnder will probably send carrier in that first mission imidiatly to go back to BB line. It looks like Axis dont have a chance to sunk that first carrier group and first group of airplanes is lanched with no way for Axis to stop them.
I think its also not neccesery for airplanes flown to Malta to have 2 mission refuling time.
For me better option for this would be, now when we are starting from date when there was no Spitfiers on Malta, at start mission #1 that first carrier group is somwere behined BB line, at location from which it takes carrier atleast 2 missions to get to lanch zone for airplanes.
That would alove at best from mission #3 Allieds to start transfering airplanes to Malta. Axis then have 2 missions to fined and attack that first carrier group before it is able to lanch airplanes, and then no need to have refuling time for transfered airplanes, like it was in phase 1. And again no Spitfiers in air in first 2 missions, in 3rd mission they would be first time flown from Carriers to Malta.
3) in OPERATIONAL FOCUS OF PHASE 2
"a. Beaufighters and none carrier fighters/fighter bombers are not allowed to cross coast as per phase 1.
i. Beauforts? Allowed or not? "
Also agree that Beaufighters, and fighters or fighter/bombers should not be able to attack over Sicily
Regarding question on Beauforts, they have only 1x.303 in wing for strafing, so they would have to attack with bombs so i would alow Allieds to be able to attack over Sicily with Beauforts, same as with Wellingtons or Blenheims IV, Carrier bombers Swordfishe, SBD-3 and TBD-1 should also be alowed to attack over Sicily