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Request for Information: Fuel Specifications
Posted: Fri 19 Jan 2007 9:51 pm
by IV/JG7_4Shades
Hi Everyone,
I am starting to build fuel consumption into SEOW now, and I need some help with tracking down some fuel specifications for some vehicles. In the following table I have listed the data I have so far for some vehicles, gaps are indicated by "999" values.
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Vehicle Fuel Capacity (L) Range (km)
Bulldozer_US 999 100
DiamondT_US 999 999
DUKW 999 999
GAZ_M1 60 999
GAZ67 70 999
GAZ67t 70 999
OpelKadett 32 999
StudebeckerTruck 70 999
Truck_Type94 999 999
ZIS5_medic 70 999
ZIS5_PC 70 999
ZIS5_radio 70 999
ZIS6_fuel 70 999
MaximeGAZ 70 999
GAZ_55 60 999
GAZ_Bus 60 999
GAZ_AA 60 999
GAZ_AAA 60 999
Motorcycle 12 999
Can anyone help fill this list in?
Cheers,
4Shades
Re: Request for Information: Fuel Specifications
Posted: Sat 20 Jan 2007 8:46 am
by Jager
IV/JG7_4Shades wrote:Hi Everyone,
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Vehicle Fuel Capacity (L) Range (km)
Bulldozer_US 200 150
DiamondT_US 225 250
DUKW 150 75 water-350 land
GAZ_M1 60 400
GAZ67 70 460
GAZ67t 70 460
OpelKadett 32 300
StudebeckerTruck 150 300
Truck_Type94 999 999
ZIS5_medic 60 180
ZIS5_PC 60 180
ZIS5_radio 60 180
ZIS6_fuel 70 180
MaximeGAZ 40 200
GAZ_55 40 200
GAZ_Bus 40 200
GAZ_AA 40 200
GAZ_AAA 60-100 250-400
Motorcycle 12/24 340
Info found in
http://www.autogallery.org.ru/gal.htm or from my bookcase collection.They are actual figures.
Buldozer rates are a guess from newer models specifications
Posted: Sat 20 Jan 2007 9:50 am
by IV/JG7_4Shades
Excellent. Type-94 Japanese truck, anyone?
Posted: Sun 21 Jan 2007 9:18 am
by Paddington
I did find some info from internet. But nothing concrete in one page. If i combine all to info, result is this.
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Vehicle Fuel Capacity (L) Range (km)
Type 94 6xwheel truck
casoline 95 320
diesel (95)* (646)
*not sure this value...
consumption
casoline 7.8 miles/gallon -> 30l/100km
diesel 16 miles/gallon -> 14.7l/100km
Posted: Sun 21 Jan 2007 10:58 pm
by IV/JG7_4Shades
OK, thanks guys, you have done well. But the challenge continues. We now turn to naval units and a few armoured units:
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Object_Type Verbose_Names_Allies Fuel_Capacity Range
IJNAkagiCV Akagi Class CV 908500 999
IJNCVGeneric Carrier (IJN) 500000 999
USSCVGeneric Carrier (US) 500670 999
USSEssexCV9 Essex Class CV 908500 999
HMSIllustriousCV Illustrious Class CV 193000 999
USSIntrepidCV11 Intrepid Class CV 908500 999
USSLexingtonCV2 Lexington Class CV 520500 999
USSSaratogaCV3 Saratoga Class CV 500670 999
IJNShokakuCV Shokaku Class CV 708000 999
IJNZuikakuCV Zuikaku Class 840000 999
USSCasablancaCVE55 Casablanca Class CVE 378500 999
USSKitkunBayCVE71 Kitkun Bay Class CVE 378500 999
USSShamrockBayCVE84 Shamrock Bay Class CVE 378500 999
IJNBBGeneric Battleship (IJN) 999 999
USSBBGeneric Battleship (US) 999 999
HMSDukeOfYorkBB Duke of York Class BB 999 999
HMSKingGeorgeVBB King George Class BB 999 999
Marat Marat Class BA 999 3720
HMSPoWBB Prince of Wales Class BB 999 999
Tirpitz Tirpitz Class (BA) 999 999
Aurora Aurora Class CA 999 999
USSIndianapolisCA35 Indianapolis Class CA 999 999
Kirov Kirov Class CA 999 6035
Niobe Niobe Class 999 999
Vainamoinen Vainamoinen Class CD 999 999
IJNAkizukiDD42 Akizuki Class DD 999 999
IJNAmatsukazeDD41 Amatsukaze 1941 Class DD 999 999
IJNAmatsukazeDD43 Amatsukaze 1943 Class DD 999 999
IJNAmatsukazeDD45 Amatsukaze 1945 Class DD 999 999
IJNArashiDD41 Arashi 1941 Class 999 999
USSDentDD116 Dent Class DD 999 999
USSFletcherDD445 Fletcher Class DD 999 999
Illmarinen Illmarinen Class CD 999 999
IJNKageroDD41 Kagero 1941 Class DD 999 999
USSKiddDD661 Kidd Class DD 999 999
MFP MFP Class 999 999
MFP2 MFP Class 999 999
Murgesku Murgesku Class 999 999
IJNNowakiDD41 Nowaki 1941 Class DD 999 999
IJNNowakiDD43 Nowaki 1943 Class DD 999 999
USSOBannonDD450 OBannon Class DD 999 999
Tashkent Tashkent Class DD 999 7400
Destroyer_USSR_Type7_44 Type 7 1944 Class 999 999
Destroyer_USSR_Type7 Type 7 Class 999 999
USSWardDD139 Ward Class DD 999 999
IJNYukikazeDD41 Yukikaze 1941 Class DD 999 999
IJNYukikazeDD43 Yukikaze 1943 Class DD 999 999
IJNYukikazeDD45 Yukikaze 1945 Class DD 999 999
BBK_1942 BBK-1 1942 Class MTB 999 999
BBK1124_1943 BBK-1 1943 Class MTB 999 999
G5 G-5 Class 999 999
MAS501 MAS-501 Class MTB 999 999
MBoat Minesweeper 999 999
MO4 MO-4 Class MTB 999 999
PAM PAM-21 Minesweeper 999 999
S80 S-80 Class 999 999
USSGatoSS212_Srf Gato Class Sub 999 999
USSGatoSS212_Sub Gato Class Sub 999 999
USSGreenlingSS213_Srf Greenling Class Sub 999 999
USSGreenlingSS213_Sub Greenling Class Sub 999 999
Shuka Shuka Class 999 999
ShukaP Shuka Class 999 999
SubmarineP Submarine 999 999
Submarine Submarine 999 999
SubTypeVIIC_Sub Type VII C Class Sub 999 999
SubTypeVIIC_Srf Type VII C Class Sub 999 999
ZSU-37 ZSU-37 37mm AAA 999 360
BA_10 BA-10 999 320
BA_6 BA-6 999 320
Tatra_OA30 Tatra Armoured Car 70 999
Again, "999" means unknown value. Range is in km, fuel capacity is in litres. I do not distinguish between diesel/oil and petrol/gasoline. Any help is much appreciated.
Coding of fuel tracking is under way...
Cheers,
4Shades
Posted: Tue 23 Jan 2007 8:04 am
by Jager
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Object_Type Verbose_Names_Allies Fuel_Capacity Range
IJNAkagiCV Akagi Class CV 5770000 15200
IJNCVGeneric Carrier (IJN) 4500000 13000
USSCVGeneric Carrier (US) 5006700 18000
USSEssexCV9 Essex Class CV 6330000 28000
HMSIllustriousCV Illustrious Class CV 4854000 20000
USSIntrepidCV11 Intrepid Class CV 6330000 28000
USSLexingtonCV2 Lexington Class CV 5205000 18500
USSSaratogaCV3 Saratoga Class CV 5006700 18500
IJNShokakuCV Shokaku Class CV 7080000 18000
IJNZuikakuCV Zuikaku Class 7080000 18000
USSCasablancaCVE55 Casablanca Class CVE 2113000 16400
USSKitkunBayCVE71 Kitkun Bay Class CVE 2113000 16400
USSShamrockBayCVE84 Shamrock Bay Class CVE 2113000 16400
IJNBBGeneric Battleship (IJN) 4500000 15000
USSBBGeneric Battleship (US) 6300000 27000
HMSDukeOfYorkBB Duke of York Class BB 3000000* 11000
HMSKingGeorgeVBB King George Class BB 3000000* 10000
Marat Marat Class BA 1250000 9250
HMSPoWBB Prince of Wales Class BB 3450000 26600
Tirpitz Tirpitz Class (BA) 8400000 17200
Aurora Aurora Class CA 964000 7200
USSIndianapolisCA35 Indianapolis Class CA 2125000 18500
Kirov Kirov Class CA 1280000 6930
Niobe Niobe Class 930000 8325
Vainamoinen Vainamoinen Class CD 93000 1300
IJNAkizukiDD42 Akizuki Class DD 1097000 15300
IJNAmatsukazeDD41 Amatsukaze 1941 Class DD 400000 9250
IJNAmatsukazeDD43 Amatsukaze 1943 Class DD 400000 9250
IJNAmatsukazeDD45 Amatsukaze 1945 Class DD 400000 9250
IJNArashiDD41 Arashi 1941 Class 400000 9250
USSDentDD116 Dent Class DD 300000 8000*
USSFletcherDD445 Fletcher Class DD 492000 12000
Illmarinen Illmarinen Class CD 93000 1300
IJNKageroDD41 Kagero 1941 Class DD 400000 9250
USSKiddDD661 Kidd Class DD 492000 12000
MFP MFP Class 6400 1990
MFP2 MFP Class 6400 1990
Murgesku Murgesku Class 100000 6300
IJNNowakiDD41 Nowaki 1941 Class DD 400000 9250
IJNNowakiDD43 Nowaki 1943 Class DD 400000 9250
USSOBannonDD450 OBannon Class DD 492000 12000
Tashkent Tashkent Class DD 540000 9000
Destroyer_USSR_Type7_44 Type 7 1944 Class 500000 4345
Destroyer_USSR_Type7 Type 7 Class 500000 4345
USSWardDD139 Ward Class DD 300000 8000*
IJNYukikazeDD41 Yukikaze 1941 Class DD 400000 9250
IJNYukikazeDD43 Yukikaze 1943 Class DD 400000 9250
IJNYukikazeDD45 Yukikaze 1945 Class DD 400000 9250
BBK_1942 BBK-1 1942 Class MTB 4000* 600
BBK1124_1943 BBK-1 1943 Class MTB 4000* 600
G5 G-5 Class 5000* 740
MAS501 MAS-501 Class MTB 7000* 740
MBoat Minesweeper 150000 9250
MO4 MO-4 Class MTB 5000* 700
PAM PAM-21 Minesweeper 5000* 740
S80 S-80 Class 11300* 1480
USSGatoSS212_Srf Gato Class Sub 355000 21900
USSGatoSS212_Sub Gato Class Sub 355000 21900
USSGreenlingSS213_Srf Greenling Class Sub 355000 21900
USSGreenlingSS213_Sub Greenling Class Sub 355000 21900
Tshuka Tshuka Class 26000 5550
TshukaP Tshuka Class 26000 5550
SubmarineP Submarine 24000 5000
Submarine Submarine 24000 5000
SubTypeVIIC_Sub Type VII C Class Sub 96000 15700
SubTypeVIIC_Srf Type VII C Class Sub 96000 15700
ZSU-37 ZSU-37 37mm AAA 420 360
BA_10 BA-10 60 300
BA_6 BA-6 40 200
Tatra_OA30 Tatra Armoured Car 70 300
* means it's an guess taken from other similar type of ship data in same class.
Marat used both Oil and Coal
Aurora just coal for fuel.
Updated 30.1.
If someone has better info on Russian Gun/torpedoboat,Schnellboot or Mas torpedo boats fuel capacity,please make corrections...
I've taken those numbers from US PT boats that where similar size or bit smaller then the German counterpart.
Posted: Wed 24 Jan 2007 5:24 am
by IV/JG7_4Shades
Gee, those US subs (Gato and Greenling) carry more fuel than a battleship and travel twice as far. Is that right?
Posted: Wed 24 Jan 2007 6:52 am
by Jager
I think the problem lies in big ships,there missing one Zero...
1000tons of fuel is 1 000 000 litres
1 ton is 1000kg/1000 litres
Gato class submarine 94,000-114,000 GALLONS of fuel = 1 US gallon = 3.7854118 liters
So that gives the amount of 355790-431490 litres.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gato_class_submarine
http://www.valoratsea.com/gato.htm
Posted: Tue 30 Jan 2007 6:24 am
by Jager
Bump...
Just a few ships left...i'l try to get them done by tomorrow...
Posted: Tue 30 Jan 2007 7:08 am
by IV/JG7_4Shades
Hi guys,
All your responses are going into the next DB - this data is vital for fuel/supply tracking. Once we get through the ships, some trains remain.
Cheers,
4Shades
Posted: Tue 30 Jan 2007 9:28 am
by IV/JG7_4Shades
A little teaser about the new Supply Module under development in SEOW.
There will be a new settings tab in the DCS to control supply tracking. In SEOW the concept is that "fuel", "ammunition", "medical supply", "food" are all rolled into one quantity called "supply". For simplicity, the amount of supply that can be stored by each unit depends on its own fuel tank capacity, e.g. the A5M4 Zeke uses 210 litres of supply to take off with a full tank.
Each side will have an initial loadout of fuel supply in each sea and ground object (e.g. 50% of fuel tank capacity), plus an initial load of fuel in controlled fuel dumps and airbases (e.g. 30% of capacity), plus an off map fuel reserve that can be used for reinforcements and offmap flights. The admin can vary each of these settings for each side using sliders prior to template initialization. Portions of the off map fuel reserve can be loaded onto freighter/tankers/air transports for movement around the map, e.g. to airbases that are running low.
Units that run out of supply will stop moving and fighting until they are resupplied (yes, they will be big fat defenceless targets). Supply will be consumed by each unit no matter whether they are moving or standing still; moving units use their supplies more rapidly than motionless units. Consumption rates will be calculated from the fuel capacity and range data now being collected for each unit type. Supply can be captured by capturing fuel dumps and airbases. Units will automatically take required supplies from nearby supply columns, fuel dumps, airbases and resupply points. Commanders will be responsible for running their own supply columns and managing their reserves.
With the feature enabled, admins will be able to put one side at a supply disadvantage or supply advantage, as desired. This will make for extremely detailed strategic gameplay, which will suit a few people I know out there.
But, this may not be to everyones' taste, so whether supply tracking is enabled or not will simply be a checkbox in the DCS, a bit like Complex Ground Movement, or Fog Of War.
Cheers,
4Shades
Posted: Sun 25 Feb 2007 9:07 am
by Jager
For my part those numbers are final,i haven't found additional info for * marked ships.
MFP is a real question mark,did it really use only 6400litres of fuel for a huge range on nearly 2000km???
That's what a reference book says but i'm bit weary about it...
http://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/ ... index.html
This site verifys range but doesn't say anything about fuel load...
Posted: Mon 26 Feb 2007 6:29 am
by II/JG77Hawk_5
Absolutely awesome!!
Posted: Mon 26 Feb 2007 9:00 am
by Jager
Oh crap...just noticed that i have forgot to change some figures from miles to km,updating currently as quickly as i can...sorry about that.
Update,all Done...
Changes made to:
US destroyers range where wrong.
Dent class range to bit shorter.
Aurora to litres.
Taskent range.
Posted: Mon 26 Feb 2007 12:09 pm
by Hitcher
Thanks for doing this, guys! It really is appreciated by us SEOW junkies!