Answer ONLY FOR MY FRIEND /ENEMY CLASSIC
My preferred Enemy, you are an Experten, and we admire your skill since long time, are you sure you prefer to be know for the use of Tricks than of your ability?
In your position I shouldn't have this doubt!
Classic EAF19 wrote:Just a quick note, but I do not think the Avengers were ever used in a dive bombing capacity by allied pilots. We used shallow bombing attacks and skip bombing, both produced satisfactory results.
I see your first attack on our two carriers becouse I was there as the only Zero trying to stop you, and I followed the diving of two Avenger on Zuikaku placing easily 3 bombs aboard in a complete absence of flak, due to the fact the attack was carried longitudinal, where the flak doesn't work.
Therefore this attack was all but not a skipping attack.
Pls see the track, now at disposal.
Airstarts... give it up mate, give it up!
This is the Realistic Simulation you intend? Better Dogfight Servers
You object to Avengers defending themselves? should we fly straight and level waving a white flag of surrender?
If the wing load/wing resistence was setted to the real as we asked from time to our friends of Daedalos Team, I am afraid that you will end to use Beaufighter and Avenger in Dogfighting...
you did use Zeros to bomb with
If a zero carry a Bomb (1 small 250) cannot carry any tank.
Would you confrontate the max payload of Hellcat and Corsair you carried in flight full of heavy Bombs, Tanks, rockets moreover using airstart becouse a take-off from a Carrier with this payload is quite impossible, in particular if you are the first of 24 aircraft? (read Carrier Mode).
In anycase our actual position is that Navy fighters have to operate as fighter (with tank), as mainly operated in reality.
you did use P1Y1's to dive bomb our ships with,
It was the only medium bomber with a sufficient payload 1500 kg of Bombs in condition to damage an Allied Carrier (4000 kg need against 2000 of a Japanese Carrier) but it is very uneffective: when the speed go up 400km/h he has a climb tendency impossible to neutralise also with full trim, infact the only success action was carried by Maraz in skipping from side, (of course shot down by flak immediately after)
you did sacrifice your top fighters in kamikaze attacks,
Yes, it was a real sacrifice, putting away our personal statistic badly, for using the only way we had to close your ships becouse the incredible air superiority of your Planeset.
Probably it was similar to the Hystorical, therefore also the answer was.
As in Hystory, our Pilots, exasperated by the unbalanced situation, took the same decision of real young and desperate Japanese Pilots: "Dead for dead, at least you dead with me! "
you never used the IJN's primary dive bomber
IJN's primary dive bomber has a max speed of 300 km/h a as max payload of 250kg of bombs. To sink an USA Carrier we need 4000 kg of bombs on target, it means 16 Val, all in condition to hit.
If you consider an Hit ratio of 30% of success (very optimistic considering Flak, Fighters and Errors) you need 48 Val for a defended Carrier.
Wanna try to do better?
you did use airstarts etc etc.
We didn't use airstart tricks for the whole Campaign
I personally (
against the contrary opinion of our pilots) planned 1 fly start ONLY the last Mission for 4 George on Guam, only to know if this "tecnic" works.
It works very well, becouse avoid the enemy reaction, but
I CONSIDER IT AN IRREALISTIC TRICK, suitable for a Dog Server, not for a serious SEOW Campaign.
On the USN side, we never used Avengers with torpedos,
we did arm our fighters with bombs,
we did have airstarts,
we did use the Corsair to attack carriers
A real list of Historic Reenactment.
Do you think that we have to mantain for the future "Realistic and Historical Campaigns"?
Can we add other interesting options like Nuclear Bombs?
At the end of the day, two Nuc Bombs were really used during the IIWW...
In an ideal world when we come to attack your CV's we will send 24xSBD, 12xTBF and 48xfighters but that is not possible, therefore we have to have multi-purposed a/c. In a game with only 42 a/c per side we must use multi-purpose a/c.
For the first time I agree with you, unfortunately on Axis side were not multipurpouse aircraft therefore having 42 planes you have to use 21 specialized Bombers (without guns as Tenzan) and 21 Fighters. Not so balanced...
